Comments on The Lu Lac Political Letter: The LuLac Edition #508, June 29th, 2008

Dave: The video is now part of the ages for all to...

2008-07-01T22:32:00.000-04:00

Dave:
The video is now part of the ages for all to see. Good job my man.

Yes perhaps the Catholics of this area have TOO mu...

2008-07-01T14:02:00.000-04:00

Yes perhaps the Catholics of this area have TOO much faith in what the "leaders" of the church are doing! Belief is one thing, marching off a cliff quite another.

I need to tell you that even though the church clo...

2008-07-01T10:17:00.000-04:00

I need to tell you that even though the church closing is a sad thing, it affirms the faith that the Catholics have. And that's a good thing.

Hey, hey, hey, I'm the only one that gets to bash ...

2008-06-30T22:22:00.000-04:00

Hey, hey, hey, I'm the only one that gets to bash Yonki. While our "friendship" ended in a rather snarky manner, the moms loved him because he took us to church. All that aside though, the video, his thoughts on the subject of SBJ closing hit home. While I agree with everything 11:55PM said, you can't argue the sadness and the waste of a beautiful building. Sure the church was killed off by people who didn't attend or support it primarily but as Dave said today in the Voice, "If we can put a man on the moon...." Maybe if the Vatican sold a couple of precious works of art, neighborhood churches that mean so much to our culture would be saved. Good video Dave. And thanks for taking me to church way back when, whatever your motives were.
YOUR KOMOTION DATE FROM DURYEA

Dave Yonki, A girlfriend in every parish! The only...

2008-06-30T22:11:00.000-04:00

Dave Yonki,
A girlfriend in every parish! The only guy who churched from Archbald to Nanticoke! Sometimes on the same day. No wonder he's upset.

I understand Dave's passion on this issue. As a bo...

2008-06-30T21:57:00.000-04:00

I understand Dave's passion on this issue. As a boomer myself, everything we were told would be there, isn't. Not whining, just a fact. Yonk might have an excitable streak in him on stuff he carews about, but by far, this is the most balanced and creative blog on the net dealing with these issues. 1155PM's points are well taken but it can't take away the regret one feels when losing a church or school. I think the amazing thing about this is that the Yonk remembers all this stuff, cares to share it with us in his unique manner and even gives a rat's ass about a parish he left nearly thirty years ago. That video was a labor of love. And heartache.

I went to school with the blog/site writer and can...

2008-06-30T17:29:00.000-04:00

I went to school with the blog/site writer and can tell you if he had a theme song it would be Warren Zevon's "Excitable Boy". Was also at the event yesterday and thought your video surpassed that slide show they had in the basement of St. John the E.

Any consideration for those of us who were run off...

2008-06-30T14:58:00.000-04:00

Any consideration for those of us who were run off by the tactics of the catholic church over the years!
Greed, Ego, Power and the covered up activities of priests with regard to that which we and God hold dearest, CHILDREN. No the catholic church did itself in plain and simple! And they continue to shelter offenders and plead poverty with arrogance supreme on a local and worldwide level!

Pete Cassidy

Two things here Mr. David: I think the emotions of...

2008-06-30T13:39:00.000-04:00

Two things here Mr. David: I think the emotions of this thing got the better of you. You told the CV that the closing was "horrific" and you told your readers it was "immoral". Strong words there bud for a situation that didn't warrant them. It is sad and I'm glad the poster from 1055pm said that the fault is not the Church's but the yuppies who never supported it when they could. Let's face it, the old people on SS can't support a modern day church economy. In the Sunday Dispatch a few years back, you yourself pointed to the fact that people need to be more supportive for the church to thrive. You mentioned those young Catholics who got their kids baptized, communionized, confirmed and then booked, never to be heard from again. Rent a Geena Davis movie, open up a Coors Lite or a cold TAB, and chill. God, the Bishop and all of us still love your hyperbolic, overexcited self on this issue.

Dave, I saw Joe Holden's report on TV last night. ...

2008-06-30T13:22:00.000-04:00

Dave, I saw Joe Holden's report on TV last night. Where was the News Station 16 in all of this? Loved your video and thought it was a great tribute.

Nice tribute Dave, but seriously, how can you say ...

2008-06-29T22:55:00.000-04:00

Nice tribute Dave, but seriously, how can you say say "(T)he closing of this church, like many of the other ones in the Greater Pittston Area this year and others in our area to come is immoral."?

What's immoral is the lack of respect and support people have had for the Church in the last 30 or so years. If even a fraction of the people who are so up in arms over these closings now were active and fervent in their support in the last number of years, many of these closings wouldn't be necessary.

It's easy to say "don't close it" and "the Bishop is a such-and-such", but where were the people saying that when it mattered? They showed up on the last day to take pictures and cry and lament why things have to be this way. Big deal. Guess what? Know why? Because you weren't there when it mattered. Too late now.

These are the people who left the churches in the lurch over the years, left them to be serviced by the same small number of the faithful while they went off and got their jobs and made their money and sent their kids to public school while they slept in on Sunday. That small number that kept the churches going got smaller and smaller, and the folks that kept the churches going just plain got tired.

What made these churches work over the years was the hard work and dedication of the old members and immigrants who LIVED for the church. Now the children of the 50's and 60's and 70's think it's immoral when the church now can't sustain itself? They expect the church to live for them, but they don't live for the Church. I'm sorry....it cuts both ways.

The old folks off the boat knew of the hard work it took to maintain these facilities...it's too bad the "educated" people today want to whine and cry, but didn't want to follow the lessons of the old bucks who kept these churches going.

These churches didn't die....they were killed off, slowly but surely, by those that now lament the death but did little to aid in their survival. That, my friend, is what's immoral.

well done, Dave. Your commentary was well written ...

2008-06-29T22:45:00.000-04:00

well done, Dave. Your commentary was well written and hit the nail on the head. The church today of the diocese of scranton is being run as a business, with little regard for the people, who truly are the church. This was forewarned when we went through the closing of the schools fiasco. Our illustrious bishop leads his flock with methods of deceit and closed mindedness. We truly are in an era where our faith is being tested, and must respond with determination as our grandparents did.

p.s. the "in my life" music bed was perfect.

IN RESPONSESo Dave, did the man who made this all ...

2008-06-29T22:29:00.000-04:00

IN RESPONSE
So Dave, did the man who made this all possible, or necessary, Bishop Martino make an appearance today? Did he get to the other church closings?
THE BEST EVIDENCE I HAVE TELLS ME BISHOP MARTINO NEVER RETURNS TO THE SCENE OF THE CRIME.

So Dave, did the man who made this all possible, o...

2008-06-29T22:23:00.000-04:00

So Dave, did the man who made this all possible, or necessary, Bishop Martino make an appearance today? Did he got to the other church closings?

Nice job Dave. It struck me how unique the older ...

2008-06-29T20:32:00.000-04:00

Nice job Dave. It struck me how unique the older churches were especially when compared to the sterile "Brocca" types currently in vogue.

Once more you get it right, while all the local ra...

2008-06-29T11:06:00.000-04:00

Once more you get it right, while all the local rags, included your sainted Sunday Dispatch just mail it in like any other story. Nice job.

Dave, WOW! Great video. Wonderful history. Little ...

2008-06-29T01:17:00.000-04:00

Dave,
WOW!
Great video.
Wonderful history. Little did those immigrants and priests dream that their church would die...but little did they know it would live on in this wonderful thing you refer to as a miracle, the internet and your creativity and passion for things important to your life.