The LuLac Edition #1483, Feb. 19th, 2011
CIAVARELLA TRIAL
Scroll down for coverage of the Mark Ciavarella trial on this site. Then check out our archives from last week. And watch this video of the post verdict news conference courtesy of the Times Leader.
11 Comments:
Kind of funny how this all can be traced to a rich boy playing mobster's car breaking down on the way to the airport. Out of desperation he carjacks gets caught and spills his guts and the story goes on and on and on....
It isn't about a good, solid investigation, often times it is about stupid criminals.
Great coverage, I believe, by all concerned!
The verdicts seem to fall right in place with the comments I posted on or about February 15th with regard to the emotional aspects of this case.
'Kids for cash' or 'Cash for kids' became a handy media line that was embraced by the public at large.
But it was money exchanged and hidden over the construction of the detention center that seemed to prove the case. The 'Kids for cash' lable suggested, on its face, that money was exchanged as individuals were sent to the center. The defendant and his attorney watned to make sure everybody heard them say that 'never happened.'
Ironically they seemed far less concerned about the fact that a jury had just handed down a guilty
verdict on 12 Federal charges.
David DeCosmo
Excellent coverage, Yonki.
I have a question. Mention was made of the ex judge working cleaning offices. I dont believe this! He is among those who got cleaned up after not those who work at clean up. This report insults the good people who work hard as clean up personell. The question is, where does he currently work and how many hours does he put in? The courts should have these answers as his whereabouts are monitored, right?
Again I dont believe this report. Can you clear it up for me?
Pete Cassidy
I understand this woman is still grieving but the fact is that her son was arrested with various drug items. Is it Ciavarella's fault that the kid was into drugs? Why didn't she see that her son had major problems and using drugs was a huge sign that he needed help. Ciavarella did not go out and drag him into his court room. Either the police or the school filed charges against him. Maybe if she paid more attention to the boy when he was showing signs of mental problems she would not be looking to blame Ciavarella for the boy killing himself. Modern day parents tend to blame the world for what goes on or doesn't go in in their own homes. What part of this boys life is she responsiblef for?
I've given this a great deal of thought and I dont believe there is any legal punishment available
which is enough for this bastard.
I hope and pray that the Judge gives the maximum and says to hell with sentencing guidelines which is
exactly what this guys standard procedure was always in all cases.
Its only right, but not enough. May he ultimately rot in hell as this mother suggests.
By the way what ever happened to that rich boy? Did John Moses get him off and get all his money for doing so or did he go to jail for a weekend? I honestly forget.
David, When I was a kid way back when, there was a judge named Valentine and a place called Kyslyn(spelling). We were terrified of getting caught doing anything wrong because if you went before Valentine, you were on your way to Kyslyn. Is it possible that having a stern hand and psychological evaluations of kids is a good idea? And the result of the evaluations being the main focus and determining factor as to what if any treatment is necessary can be a positive life changing event? The media did a great job of driving this case in the direction of the "poor kids" rather than sticking to the facts. Personally, I agree with the findings but I also acknowledge that I did not sit in the courtroom every day so I have no facts to base my opinion on. People who just the newspaper or talk radio as the basis of their opinions is not a very good idea. I personally spoke with people in the system as well as some school teachers who worked with these kids and I was told that they feel the current system is failing in the sense that they do nothing out of fear of the media. The pendulum has swung too far to the other side. Your Lunch Buddy
157 years sounds pretty fair to me. Let's just see how this sentencing all fairs out.
I saw two jurors interviewed and read in the paper as well. They said they were presented no evidence of "Kids for Cash" and that Civerella was NOT found guilty of that charge. I have to agree with other posters who have said this was a waste of time and tax payer dollars. I genuinely believe that if Civerella did NOT take the stand he may very well have walked on all counts.
I understand, and I could be wrong, that if the use of kids for cash continues, now after the verdict is in, that there may be slander and liable issues.
IN RESPONSE
David, When I was a kid way back when, there was a judge named Valentine and a place called Kyslyn(spelling). We were terrified of getting caught doing anything wrong because if you went before Valentine, you were on your way to Kyslyn.
I REMEMBER THAT WELL. I THINK THE PROPER SPELLING WAS KISSALYN AND IT WAS LOCATED IN DRUMS. I TOO WAS TERRIFIED OVER IT. I HAD A NEIGHBOR WHO USED TO TURN AROUND IN OUR DRIVEWAY. HE HAD THE HUGE CONVERTIBLE AND HE'D BUST ME SAYING, "C'MON, I'M TAKING YOU TO KISSALYN." SCARED THE CRAP OUT OF ME.
Hey guys, Kyslyn is still there and alive and well. I too remember it being a threat for boys - it was there when my 90+ year old father was young. It is now a federal Job Corp Center for about 30 years I think. So, rather than take in local bad boys, it gets them from all over the place - like Phila. and MD. It has become quite big and boasts a respected nursing and culinary program. Unlike Minsec, it seems to not cause local trouble (of course they are juvies of sorts) although I hear the 20 year old found dead on Mine St. in Hazleton last week had recently "graduated" from that Job Corps. They get kids from all over - good kids from Camp Adams can move on up to this Job Corps.
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