Monday, July 02, 2012

The LuLac Edition #2110, July 2nd, 2012

"Health Care...Not Scare Care" logo. 


In the next few months you are going to be hearing a lot of health care scare tactics that will be designed to turn normal thinking people against this bill. Here are the biggies: 
CHARGE: Illegal aliens.  If health care is expanded, illegal aliens will get free health care and the rest of us will have to pay for it. 
FACT: People who speak with an accent and are not citizens will surely apply. This segment of the population will also be subsidized but they will pay something. Employers will not have to put them on health care so you have the dual effect of them getting more hours and a better chance to contribute to their adopted or visiting country by paying taxes. Illegal aliens will want to avoid any type of system run by “the government” for fear of being deported. Name me a criminal who will walk into an insurance exchange and try to get something for free when they are on the run. 
CHARGE: Welfare people will get on the subsidy and get better care. 
FACT: Welfare people have an Access Card right now that gives them health care. In some cases it’s free. Would you rather have these people contribute something by either paying something rather than nothing? Also, in terms of better care, people on welfare have to wait in line for procedures just like the rest of us. I have a friend who is on public assistance. Has been for about a year. She waited 4 months to have a specialist see her for a problem. It took me the exact same time to see my specialist who did my hip. The fact of the matter is that good health care providers with stellar reputations require a long waiting period for an appointment. It doesn’t matter if you are on an access card or a BCNEPA policy. That is not the fault of the insurance companies, the Affordable Care Act or anyone else. The good news in all of this is that after my friend’s appointment, she had her procedure within 2 weeks. After my appointment, I had my procedure within 2 and ½ weeks. Medical professionals are just that, professionals. If you’re sick, you get the care. Whatever your means of insurance. Why would we not want everyone covered? 
CHARGE: With 30 million people added to the rolls, the waiting lines will be intolerable. People will have to wait forever and no one will get good care. 
FACT: People are waiting for appointments now. And all 30 million people aren’t going to get sick at the same time with the same disease on the same day with the same needs. If 30 million people see a KFC commercial at 4pm during an NFL game, all 30 million people aren’t going to swarm KFC the Tuesday after at the same time ordering the same meal. People need to combat these ridiculous arguments with common sense. 
CHARGE: The Supreme Court says this is a tax. My taxes will go up. 
FACT: If you are a responsible person that is not covered or you don’t have a job, you wisely choose to buy insurance. If you are fortunate to have a job where you are insured in a group, you either pay part of your salary to be on that plan or the company pays the whole freight. (When I worked at BCNEPA, less than 5% of the companies paid the whole freight for their employees. That number might be smaller now). All of that said, here's the message for you: YOUR TAXES WON’T GO UP. YOU WILL HAVE NO TAXES. The only people who will have to pay a tax are those people who refuse to sign up. Then they get a penalty. This tax/penalty is called a FREELOADER FEE. It only encompasses 2% of the American population. To say that taxes will go up because of this is a lie. Fortunately most people are responsible. Others are not. One of the best quotes I heard about government came from Congressman Kanjorski who said, “Rules and regulations are enacted for not for the 98% of the people who do the right thing but for the 2% of the people who refuse to do the right thing.” Or in this case, anything. 
CHARGE: Since this bill was signed, my health care costs and premiums went up. It’s Obama’s fault and this stupid law. 
FACT: The law is not even in effect yet. The insurance companies raised rates in anticipation of the scare tactics and to make sure they had enough money to operate. Most are trying to adapt to the 80/20 provision which caps insurance companies operating expenses at 20%. That means that the other 80% will be dedicated to health care claims, not surpluses, golf memberships, $800,000 salaries and $25,000 stipends to lawyers, casino owners and state senators who show up for a dozen meetings a year. Name me a non profit board member who gets $25,000 for showing up and having lunch. If your premiums went up the last two years, don’t blame the President, blame the people whose card you carry in your wallet. Plus, some insurance holders will be getting a rebate this summer because their insurance companies have to comply with the 80/20 rule. 
CHARGE: The government can’t handle this. They’ll screw it up. 
FACT: Maybe but they can’t do any worse than the way private insurance companies are operating it now. The goal here is to partner with insurers. The goal here is to keep them honest and keep them in business. Medicare came about in 1965 and is essentially a singer payer system. The government partnered with insurance companies who offered supplemental policies. Insurers are making money because responsible seniors buy into the fact that a supplement is needed. The pool is large and the system works. And let’s talk about efficiency. In March of this year, I decided to get new eye glasses. I was told that I was not covered even though I was on a Vision plan since 2010. After numerous phone calls, I got it straightened out. Or so I thought. After a few months, I finally found the frames I wanted. When the insurance company was contacted, I was denied because I am not active in a Vision plan. The same vision plan that I have been on since 2010. How much worse can a government run health care plan be when the claims departments of all insurers hold on to their money like vampires at the last blood bank on earth? Clue to the insurance companies, make sure the people handling your claims get their GED or their diploma from a college other than the University of Phoenix. Monday morning I’ll be talking to some dim wit who will tell me I’m not covered even though I have been on the same freaking plan since……yeah, 2010. Sorry for being so repetitious but I’m practicing for my phone call to the Davis Vision Claims Department later today. I'll keep you posted on how far I get. 
CHARGE:  Not one member of Congress read the bill.
FACT: Chris Carney did! 
FINAL ARGUMENT: I’m stupid and proud of it. 
FACT: At about 8:17am on Friday morning, some guy called Webster & Nancy complaining about how this Supreme Court decision was going to cost him and other people in taxes. He blathered about how things could only get worse than this and that it was up to people to get away from government doing everything for them. He bemoaned the fact that people wanted a handout and these days do nothing for themselves without a government program. When Nancy asked him what insurance he had, he replied, “Medicare”. Typical LuLac attitude, “I got mine, you don’t have yours, so screw you!” 
So there you have a run down of the lies and bullshit you’re going to hear from the haters of the President, the people who are so insular that all they care about is themselves and people who are so partisan they are willing to destroy our country by being inflexible and quite frankly, mean bastards. So when you have your relatives coming over for the Fourth of July in a few days, keep these facts handy. You’ll need them to stop the lies. 
As the Professor would say, “CLASS DISMISSED”.


At 7:14 AM, Blogger Aggie95 said...

O.K. yonk a program that the CBO projects to cost 1.76 trillion over 10 is free it

At 8:53 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Very concise summation of how any free thinking ndividual could combat the lies and silliness. Did anyone see Boehner on Face the ation yesterday? Liar! Fool.

At 9:07 AM, Anonymous Professor Milburn Cleaver, OPA said...

They say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Mr. Yonki's impression of yours truly at the close of his paper made me chuckle. I respectfully disagree with his argument, but I admire the effort. For content, You get a D-, but for effort you get an A+. All in all a final grade of C.

The business of this classroom goes forward.....

With regard to the Obamacare issue I believe that both sides, Republican and Democrat and the talking heads of the cable networks are wasting valuable time. It is pointless to discuss the coming implications of Obamacare because Obamacare is NOT, I repeat NOT coming to reality.
Once the GOP takes control of the Senate next year with Pres. Romney in the White House, the bill will be repealed through the process of reconciliation. This is a fact and the idea that the SCOTUS has declared it a tax makes reconciliation not only inevitable, but legal.
So, as you slackers are used to wasting time, God knows you've wasted more than enough of mine, keep it up.
Obamacare will be D.O.A. come noon of the 20th of January in the year of our Lord Two Thousand and Thirteen....
Something to think about this morning......
Class dismissed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

At 9:11 AM, Blogger Aggie95 said...

What % of their income will welfare and the unemployed be required to contribute to their healthcare

At 9:29 AM, Blogger Aggie95 said...

Yonk so you claim that this law does not raise taxes ...fees or fines on any but those who do not have healthcare and refuse to buy it ....if so what is the tanning tax ....can you explain what the fee or tax is on medical devices costing over 100.000. I have a question concerning the increase on the deduction on medical expences as well which will rise from 7.5 to 10 % before you can claim that a tax increase or a fee increase or am I making it up. Now that this law calls for what my employer pays for my medical coverage to be listed on my W - 2 will I have to pay a tax on that as income .... just asking Yonk

At 10:36 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good job Yonk. Did you notice the so called professor didn't mention the Spreme Court rulling? Just refer to him as Professor Goof.

At 3:57 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr.Yonki,I recently read on the online blog, that Gov. Romney is now against The Affordable Care Act when as Governor he was for a similar health care act because subsidiaries of his former company, Bain Capital will lose millions of dollars in government subsidies if the law stays in effect. I checked this site for accuracy on and found out that the leftwingouterlimits site ranks a close second in the accuracy of its reporting to the site. I am aghast that this information is true.

At 9:08 PM, Blogger David Yonki said...

..if so what is the tanning tax ....can you explain what the fee or tax is on medical devices costing over 100.000.

At 5:59 AM, Blogger Aggie95 said...

hey yonk the Republicans are the evil war mongers .... hmmmmm lets look at that shall we

1 - The Civil War was began by democrats in the south angry at the election of the very first Republican president and afraid he would take away or further curtail their right to own black men, women and children first left the union then began the civil war when they fired on a union fort.

WW I - a democrat president
WW II - a democrat president
Korea - a democrat president
Vietnam - first troops in under truman all in under kennedy and johnston

The only time nuclear weapons have been used was by a democrat and against civilian populations .... twice

special order 9066 allowed a democrat president to place American citizen in concentration camps ....based on their race

We have 1,000,000 plus dead American servicemen and women under or because of democrats untold millions of civilian deathes
the use of nukes and our very own version of concentration camps under democrat leadership .... and Republican have how many war dead yonk 10 - 15,000 servicemen or women

At 8:22 PM, Blogger David Yonki said...

Aggie95 said...
hey yonk the Republicans are the evil war mongers .... hmmmmm lets look at that shall we

At 9:52 PM, Blogger Aggie95 said...

How much did you pay for the dead

At 11:07 PM, Blogger David Yonki said...

How much did you pay for the dead

At 11:21 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "The LuLac Edition #2110, July 2nd, 2012":

Aggie95, you must take dumb pills for the inane comments you make. Compare the Civil War, WWI and WWII to the unfunded wars, you gotta be kidding!

At 11:22 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "The LuLac Edition #2109, July 1st, 2012":

Aggie95 should be banned from this blog for his pure stupidity.

At 6:06 AM, Blogger Aggie95 said...

Anonymous .....* GRIN * .... was I comparing them or perhaps .... maybe ....could it be that I was pointing out that contrary to liberal opinion it isn't Republicans who are the war mongers ......we Republicans have what ....10,000 15,000 dead American servicemen and womens blood on our hands you democrats have engaged in or started wars with 1,000,000 plus ..... * SHRUG * ....go back threw history laddie and you'll see I'm right. In fact the way I see it we Republican may indeed build the armed services but objectively speaking we ain't the ones using them ....ya'll are.....oh and one other thing .....ain't you the sensitive little feller ....ban me .....why because you don't like my opinion .....ah yes the oh so tolerant left ....if they don't like your speech their response always seems to be .....SHUT UP

At 6:24 AM, Blogger Aggie95 said...

Despots yep but Yonk ....a question ....if Iran was to say take over all of OPEC and Canada's oil resources and was to then stop the flow of oil to the U.S. what would our response be along with all our resources from those nation ....timber ...metals etc ....

At 12:15 PM, Anonymous Pope George Ringo said...

RE; Aggie:
I expect if we didnt go into Iraq our lives here would actualy be better and our treasury not drained.
On the other hand if we didn't go into WWII, we would be witness to a new Dark Age.
Democrats start wars that preserve freedom.
Republicans start wars that make them $$$$>
You go to church young lady adn pray for your misguided I shall.
God Bless,
His Holiness

At 7:49 AM, Blogger Aggie95 said...

My misguided soul happens to have an outie not an innie and if we Republicans start wars for money we must be pretty damned broke .... give me a list of the wars the Republicans started and then explain to me how the Civil war which was started by the democrats was a noble effort to perserve freedom. Was Vietnam started to preserve freedom who's freedom, how about Korea or WWI might have a case for WWII but even there why don't you take a look at what activities we were engaged in that prompted the Japanese to attack us and then Germany to jump in and it still boils down to one simple fact if we Republicans are war mongers we are slackers and in any case you and Yonk have already conceded my point and now we are just arguing over justification which is a different and separate point ...* SHRUG *

At 4:03 PM, Anonymous Pope George Ringo said...

RE: Aggie:
I suppose you are against our involvement in the Civil War; wow, you go way back there. WEll, for starters it was begun to assert the fact that no single state had the right to secede from the Union. Secondly, it revolved around slavery. Whatever your view on that.
WWII: We were attacked on 12/7 by the Japanese. Germany would eventually have overtaken England had we not become involved in the War. So, in a strange way, the Pearl Harbor bombing saved mankind as there were more anti war citizens than pro war the day before. Had England been taken, it would have been impossible for the US to defeat Germany and they would have us next on their list.
Vietnam was begun by Dwight D. Eisenhower and carried on by two Democrats and two Republican Presidents.
I'm running out of time...i will continue at a later date...sorry and b y the way, Bless YOU!!!

At 12:39 AM, Blogger Aggie95 said...

Well as you may know the Japanese attacked us because we had cut off their oil of which we were the largest exporter of at the time along with a good many other resources they needed ....their whole goal was to hurt us bad enough that they could take and consolidate what they had taken before we could re arm and then hope to strike a peace deal and keep what they had ...oil and other resources ....would we go to war if iran cut off our oil .... * GRIN * second we had long been at war with germany and had in fact been attacking their subs or informing the Brits where they were and we most certainly were arming the British as well ....all acts of war ....and as far as Vietnam google up truman vietnam and you will find that the first troops and military supplies were sent by him in 1950 and the civil war began when that little fort was fired on ...not when the south left the union and as far as me being for or against any one war or another is not the topic of the post you are responding to it the topic is war mongering as it were so who has caused or lead us in the largest most deadly wars in our history wasn't Republicans

At 9:56 AM, Anonymous Pope George Ringo said...

Aggie: you have absolutely no knowledge of American history. Google????
How about reading something from this thing...oh, wait. excuse me...what they called???
Oh, Yeah,
B O O K S.
Everything you read on the internet is not true. If that were the case, I guess I had better prepare for the great zombie invasion.


At 12:14 AM, Blogger Aggie95 said...

Gee pope ....why don't you educate me as you are so smart can start with why the Japenese attacked us or are you suggesting they just woke up one day and for giggles decided to start a war with us


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