Thursday, February 24, 2011

The Lulac Edition #1489, Feb. 24th, 2011



The actions of Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker the last few days started a debate within me that I found very hard to shake. On the surface, Walker paints a picture that in this tough economy everyone should make concessions. Since tax funded jobs are always a favorite target for those who don’t have them, this politically was an easy stance to take. It was thought that conservative Walker would make a stand and then back down. He did not. It has been said that unions had their day. We were told that unions were formed to promote worker safety and fair wages. But in this the greatest country in the world, where we want for nothing, unions aren’t necessary to protect the dignity of anyone anymore. To be sure there have been abuses in unions. Just take a look at the United Mine Workers Union. I remember stories from my father who told me that after a 17 hour day of clearing snow, he had to endure a three hour meal in White Haven (more than 35 miles away from our house) because his union steward wanted to get an even twenty hours from the company. My father would’ve preferred the extra time at home. There are enough horror stories in teacher’s union too. It is no secret that some of the less proficient teachers and workers are protected by unions. I have called many times for a mass firing of the Luzerne County Courthouse because of corruption and inefficiencies begot by numerous unions. So unions are not the angelic forces that many would have us believe.
That said though, Wisconsin tells us that the conservative right, primarily supported by big business now has its eye on what was once sacrosanct, unions. American business today is not at all about people, but about profit. Years ago, business people would provide a product, they’d sell it at a fair price and then take a profit. It was enough profit to let them reinvest it in the business, give them sometimes a higher standard of living than those who bought it and in effect rewarded them for their risk. Right around the end of the 70s, unions lost their juice. In the Wilkes Barre Area, the employees of the Times Leader went on strike. Within a few days, replacement workers gladly took over. It was no longer taboo to be called a “scab”. While the early non union employees at the Leader had some rocky times, they soon subsided while the striking employees formed the Citizen’s Voice. Within 30 years, the Voice itself was absorbed by a non union paper. To date there are less than a handful of union employees at the Voice. Nationally Ronald Reagan got kudos and high heroics for firing the air traffic controllers. Union disintegration continued into sports when the NFL and baseball hired replacement players.
Meanwhile, American business started to flex its muscle. Corporations cared only about the bottom line. Eager politicians gave the companies tax breaks while weak knee Chamber of Commerces gave into their every demand. I worked for three companies that got federal money to set up shop. Only one is left (and that’s after they outsourced 75% of their jobs to India and Canada) and last I heard the starting pay is $11.00 an hour. Workers are told to be grateful for their jobs. The same workers are told they’ll be vested in a retirement plan after 5 years. Those workers never make it to five years. Super market chains come in here and offer jobs. 90% of them are part time with no health care. Even “family” businesses look out for number 1 keeping the help in line by reduction of hours or threatening to fire at will. Which they do regularly. The horse is out of the barn in our economy regarding “at will” workers. One must go into any job today thinking like a baseball manager, “you are hired to be fired”. Things can never return to the way they were in the 50s and 60s.
But given all the trepidations I have about unions, the Wisconsin story is troubling. Once a concession is taken back by an entity, whether it be business or government, it never comes back. In the mid 80s, the management at the old Sunday Independent repeatedly asked for concessions from their employees. “Help us, help you protect your jobs”. The union did. It made many concessions they never got back. One day when those union workers were coming to work, the Independent was padlocked. No notice, nothing. My question is: What good were the concessions if management couldn’t use that extra money to stay competitive?
Wisconsin is important because workers need to keep what they fought for. Empty promises just won’t cut it. Wisconsin is important because concessions always come at the expense of those who can ill afford to give it. Wisconsin is important because if this Scott Walker plan succeeds, the elimination of the middle class in this country will be complete.
State workers are an easy target. Teachers are an easy target. It’s because of envy. But that envy is fueled by $9.00 an hour jobs and no health care. It is a typical divide and conquer mentality. But the fact is government workers have not received raises in years. In states like Pennsylvania they are at the mercy of Legislators who make over $100,000 a year. The recent attempt to privatize liquor stores in Pennsylvania is as much about union busting as it is about getting a one time windfall for a strapped Commonwealth economy.
Wisconsin happened because of greed. Greed by business owners. Two years ago a local concern lost a sales contract to a competitor. At a meeting with the Executive Board, the manager was told by the company CEO, “I don’t care how you make it up, fire, cut, demote, reorganize. I don’t care what you do to get this money back. But know this: I will not change my lifestyle that I’ve been accustomed to one bit because of this. This is your problem, not mine”.
And that my friends is why Wisconsin is so important. We are at a crossroads. One bad turn and we’re done.


The recent article in the Citizen’s Voice by Dave Janoski about the circumstances regarding the tragic death of Edward R. Kenzakoski III are both compelling and confusing. The boy’s father admitted to Janoski that he and his friends set the young man up when they felt he was getting out of control by planting drug paraphernalia in his vehicle. The intention according to the father was to haul the boy before Judge Ciavarella who would “scare him straight”. Instead Ciavarella sent him to the Juvenile Detention facility. After those stint and a few brushes with the law, the young man committed suicide. After Judge Ciavarella’s conviction on 12 of the 39 counts filed against him, Kenzakoski III’s mother Sandra Fondo went off on a tirade against Judge Ciavarella holding him responsible for her child’s death. She later appeared on CNN, Good Morning America and The Today Show. With the revelation from the father, Edward Kenzakoski Junior that he had a hand in all of this illustrates just how complex these cases are. Surely Judge Ciavarella had a hand in all of this young man’s spiral downward but it appears as if he came in on the second or third act of this drama. I am not defending Ciavarella here and I am very sympathetic to the loss of any young person who’s potential is cut short by an untimely death. But the Juvenile system, such as it is or was or will be cannot be blamed fully. It can share part of the blame but not all of it. My sister taught first grade for over thirty years in a local school district. When parents brought their kids to her, more than a few would say, “Thank God he or she has you. Now maybe you can do something with them”. My sister replied that the foundation for good, bad or indifference had already been built. There is a role of personal parental responsibility and in the case of divorced parents, (as the Kenzakoski Case) there has to be communication. And perhaps there was but I can’t believe that after Ms. Fondo’s passionate plea against the Judge that she would permit her ex to “set up” her son.
The other day the Times Leader had a story about a young woman who wanted to be a doctor. At the age of thirteen she threatened her grandmother and even though her relative dropped the charges she was sent away anyway. After her release she broke a few rules. Then a few laws. At the age of twenty she now has two babies. Even though Ciavarella sent her away, how is he responsible for her opening her legs and having those babies?
A few months ago I was going to The Bake House. As Mrs. LuLac drove to a parking space, this guy kept on eye balling me in as I sat in the passenger seat. It was a kid I knew from Hanover Area who was hell on wheels back then. He had a few runs in with the law and dropped out of school. No one gave him a chance. He has a business in Kingston now and has two kids who he told me proudly are on the honor roll. Why I asked him how he did, all he said was, “It was time to get my shit together and I did”. Now I understand that everybody can’t be this guy but everybody sent to the Detention Center by Ciavarella can’t be without blame either.
A hard look at the schools has to take place too. The “zero tolerance” policy gave administrators and teachers an easy out in handing over to authorities any kid who was a pain in the ass. So if someone broke a window (or in my case when I was in the 8th grade with my buddy Paul Komensky a plate glass door) is that warranting a kid being sent away? And where was the legal profession in all of this? Like any line of work, attorneys gossip. You mean to tell me that local lawyers didn’t know that Ciavarella before and after Pa. Child Care wanted to make a name for himself as a “tough little bastard”? Anyone who observed Ciavarella’s demeanor in Court knew this guy wasn’t going to be warm and fuzzy. Did anyone not know that he loved to run a tight court where disposing of the cases was more important than actually hearing them? Ciavarella, like former Judghe Ann Lokuta’s behavior in all those years did not occur in a vacuum. There were warning signs but parents, school officials, lawyers, the probation office , and the courts took the easy way out. Perhaps Judge Ciavarella’s greatest crime will never be on the court ledger. Perhaps his greatest sin was that in terms of the easy way out, Ciavarella let everyone take it.


The race is heating up for Luzerne County Council. Here are some names being bandied about. On the GOP side you have Michael Cabell, Kathy Dobash, Harry Haas, Rick Morelli, Gina Nevenglosky, Moderno "Butch" Rossi, John C. Ruckno, Linda Urban, Frank Vandermark and Edward Warkevicz.
The Democrats have an array of candidates running too. They are; Michelle Bednar, Kevin Casey, Casey Evans, Mario Fiorucci, Thomas Ksiezopolski, Thomas Rome, Gary Reese, Wil Toole and Bruce J. Simpson. Plus there are still at least another 15 who have told me that they are in "the mulling stage".


Tom Borthwick for Scranton School Board Campaign Kick-Off will be at Kilcoyne's, Friday, March 11 at 6:00pm. Borthwick is a candidate for Scranton School Board and will cross file.

ORIE OH!!!!!

Republican State Sen. Jane Orie's former chief of staff said the lawmaker tried to cover up campaign work being done by her taxpayer-funded staff after learning an intern had reported the activity to authorities in October 2009. Those darn interns!
Orie's former top aide, Jamie Pavlot, continued testifying this week in the corruption trial of the senator and her sister, Janine Orie, that the senator told Pavlot to post a sign on a seldom-used office upstairs of Orie's legislative office to make it appear that location was the campaign headquarters of a third sister, now-state Supreme Court Justice Joan Orie Melvin. Pavlot said Orie also hand wrote a letter later sent to the intern and her professors at the University of Pittsburgh denying campaign work was ever done by the senator's staff on state time.


We first met Attorney Vito DeLuca when he campaigned for rejection of the Home Rule Charter in the County. He’s running for Luzerne County Judge now having hosted a campaign kick off at Alden Manor. To learn more about Attorney Vito DeLuca’s candidacy for Luzerne County Judge please visit his website at



King’s College Government and Mass Communications Students and departments hosted a fine event this week at the college. Both Congressmen Lou Barletta and Tom Marino were on a panel hosted by Sue Henry. It was a very good meeting exhibiting the interest young people have in government.


Penn State students raised A record $9.56 million for the Four Diamonds Fund at Penn State Hershey Children's Hospital at the annual Thon. The Four Diamonds Fund benefits pediatric cancer patients. About 700 dancers kicked up their heels for the 46-hour dance marathon, which is billed as the largest student-run philanthropy in the world.




This week on Saturday Night Live at the Oldies, tune in when Shadoe Steele’s guest is the biggest 70s novelty hits artist, of Cheech and Chong - Tommy Chong live from Stamford, Connecticut 8 - 9 PM. Saturday Live At the Oldies is on WILK AM & FM Saturday from 7PM to midnight with ABC News on the hour.


Join WARM’s Brian Hughes at 9:30AM for his weekly public affairs program “Sunday Magazine”. This Week on Sunday Magazine Brian Hughes speaks with Andy Mehalshick from WBRE-TV about the aftermath of former Luzerne County Judge Mark Ciavarella's corruption trial, and what's next in the ongoing federal corruption probe, And Brian speaks with Doctors Jeffrey Becker and Robert Bohlander from the Neurosensory Center of Eastern Pennsylvania in Kingston on a wide variety of ailments treated by the center, ranging from Autism and ADHD to Fibromyalgia and Chronic Pain Disorders. Sunday Magazine, Sunday morning at 5:30am on JR 93.7, 6am on 97BHT & 97.9 X, 6:30 on Magic 93, and 9:30am on WARM 590 AM.


Tune in every day at 5:30 and for the rebroadcast at 11:30PM to Topic A on WYLN TV 35You can see WYLN TV 35 on Service Electric Channel 7 in Wilkes Barre.


President Nixon continues his historic trip to China this week 39 years ago……
As the economy in Pennsylvania rebounds, Governor Shapp singles out his legislative Democratic leadership in the General Assembly--Senators Murray and House Speaker Howard Fineman, Majority Leader Leroy Irvis and Majority Whip James Manderino—for shepherding his income tax proposal in the previos year…….in the 117th District, Shickshinny’s George Hasay announces that he will run as a Republican for State Representative........ and 39 years ago today, the number 1song in America and LuLac land was “Sweet Seasons” by Carole King.


At 1:18 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Packers win the Super Bowl and there should be rejoicing in Wisconsin, but no! Now they have this mess on their hands! Geez!
For a state that never gets much publicity since Laverne and Shirley moved out (is that where they were from?) too bad they couldnt just enjoy the ride

At 4:52 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You Sunday Independent comment was, perhaps, the dumbest thing I have ever read. A person has a bad car accident, since one day in the future he or she will pass on anyway, what is the point in treating them?
The Independent was trying to stay afloat, because they were not able to doesn't mean they should NOT have tried.
I forgot, liberals want guarantees and entitlements. My bad.

At 6:43 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Define a union. An organization that protects the least productive and stifles the most productive.

At 10:02 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't think he is saying they didn't try. But the Independent had a lot of family members feeding at the troth while the management kept on asking for concessions. You never get them back. This economy has crippled the average worker where they are afraid to stand up or speak for themselves. You talk about socialism? This is a sign of suppression. Bottom line: people have to live and the greedy rich and the GOP who is in bed with them have driven down the standard of living for all Americans.

At 10:07 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Prior to the 1960's the American education system was the envy of the world. Steadily, since the 1970's it has gone downhill. The difference? Public sector unions. Let's face it for all the good some unions do, the fact is they protect the least productive employees.
And who in their right mind, who values their own productivity, would ever want to be collectively bargained for? Collectivism. No thank you.
Don't you find it curious that a certain talk show host, though it was 2 years after the Cap Cities take over, crossed a picket line to go to work. Isn't that the definition of a scab?

At 10:52 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What really slays me are these people who were educated because their parents got a leg up from union jobs. This new middle class is not the same as the old middle class because they bought into the conservative philosophy of less government. The only exceptions though for them are war, tax breaks for the rich and no regulatins where business can go apeshit over every thing and trample the worker. And the worker is also to blame, we'll take our pay cuts, do our givebacks as long as we have enough for a flat screen, a 30 pack of beer and a night at red lobster or olve garden once a week. The new middle class, the so called educated class is dumber than the greatesat generation. The greatest generation never voted against their own self interest.

At 10:52 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

when someone owns a business, they take the risk to start it, they often go without pay for anywhere from 1 to 5 years while they are growing it. people don't start businesses to create jobs, they do it to make money. if you want a higher standard of living, grow a set, and start your own. don't be a wage slave always begging for more from someone else.
a business owner should only have to pay what someone is willing to accept for doing the work, not a penny more.
if you want to be taken care of from cradle to grave there is always Cuba.

At 10:53 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Me thinks Yonk is getting a man crush on Nixon!!!

At 10:59 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It isn't about voting against one's own self interest, it is about voting for an opportunity to get further. The greatest generation wasn't paying for the enormous welfare state and generational welfare recipients that exists today.
Think about this; what political persuasion, conservative or liberal, would benefit more from people who are in poverty and rely on the largess of the federal government?
When you answer the question, then ask who wants the middle class to actually succeed and move into upper middle and upper classes and who wants them to fall into lower classes.
The poorer one is, the more likely one is to vote democratic. So why would those in power want poor people to succeed.

At 3:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yonki, your comments about the Ciavarella continue to be thoughtful and on taeget. My question is this, actually I have a few, the Judge will go to jail, the kids will get restitution, the decased will be a monument to very bad government. But what about those victims who were terrorized and had crimes committed against them by the kids who weren't casual offenders? Where do they go for justice? They were the original crime victims and people seem to have forgot about them? Not everyone should have gotten a free pass on this thing.

At 6:38 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tons of info on LuLac and lots of people chimming in on it all. Agree
or disagree, this is what makes LuLac so readable and overall the best site in NEPA. Keep up the good work, Dave. Unlike many others you actually serve a purpose and your efforts are appreciated even by those who criticize. This installment was full of intelligent discourse from different directions and that is rare today in the USA.


At 7:14 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Regarding the Sunday Independent ...
All the while the Unions were making the concessions, to help the company "Stay afloat", the deal had been made with the other paper to buy all of the assets of the S.I. LONG before they went under, they knew they were going to go under and sell to the T.L. In the meantime, as the unions were conceeding,and helping the company save money to stay afloat, the company was socking it all away in a Caman Islands account. While their useless kids suck the teat dry of all the money. I know, I was there, and in the heat of it all. Then the bastards padlocked us all out without any warning. Still with all their knowledge of the sale, they kept on taking cash money for political ads up until the day before they locked their doors. There definitely are good and bad areas of unionism, sort of the same as government can be. But the long and short of it all is unionism has been a benefit to millions of downtrodden workers. But as time progressed, the unions lost their powers of negotiating for the members, technology took a stranglehold on many industries and there the downfall began. Our present 2 newspapers in the valley are definitive proof of that. The unions were raped and ultimately destroyed.

At 10:05 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yonk, there are times when I enjoy your writings but when you begin to rant against all county workers, it really pisses me off. You personally don't know squat about county workers. You don't even know here they work and have no clue as to what they do. You ignore the fact that you have had two generations of your family working in the court house but of course, that's OK because they actually worked as compared to all others. Sometimes you come off as every bit as mean, heartless and mindless as Steve Corbett. Whhat pleasure do you get from knowcking people who have a job? Is it just because they do and you don't? I never read where you knocked your uncle or cousin when their asses were sitting in pillows but then again, they were family and they got their jobs due to qualifications and not politics. I think you need a good kick in the ass and if i ever see you actually standing up, you just might get it. In the mean time, you just continue to sit there being a mean little *****.

At 10:07 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yonki, just a quick word, saw your reports on TV and thought you were fabulous. Glad WYLN TV 35 is now in my viewing area.

At 10:54 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey 10:53AM, Yonki and Nixon? No way. Here's his man crushes, CliNton, Rendell, the Kennedys, Martin Luther King, Nelson Rockefeller and Hubert Humphrey. With the exception of the Hump, all of these guys like the Yonk tripped the light fandango with the lay ay dees.

At 6:29 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually, sounds like the business people running the Sunday Independent maximized profits and sales assets at the same time. Actually, quite brilliant.
As far as employees, o well. Take a chance and start a business. The only thing people actually should be entitled to is pay for their time or productivity, all the other shit, sick days, vacation time health insurance are just added benefits.

At 3:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm sure 6:29 only gets paid for their time and productivity. Probably gets no benefits whatsoever. Either that or they just don't want anyone else to get any benefits.

At 10:22 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Agree 1000% on your Union/Wisconsin comments. DEMS need to leverage this into the next election cycle. Big Business started with the free lunches of tax forgiveness and subsidies and now they want to crush the unions and push the middle 40% of us back down towards the lowest 30%. And then, there are the pols...myopic blowhards one and all. Pat Buchanan hit it right on the head in a recent column. South Korea exports $12 billion in automotive parts to us and imports only $1 billion, and they won't agree to opening up their markets to even a little bit more. keep your $1 billion, and we'll take back our $12 billion market..adding thousands of jobs to the U.S economy. And, this is one small example. All it takes is a few politicians with a set of their own, other than the ones they are renting from their donors.

At 7:06 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually, that is exactly how I am compensated. I am a self employed small business owner. I earn as much as I put in. I used to have a small contingent of full time employees. I wanted to me a different type of employer. I provided good wages, benefits, 3 weeks vacation and even meals when we worked past a certain hour.
After the economy turned down my wife and I started cutting back, but I kept my employees at their levels. We did without to keep the business afloat and make sure my employees and their families would not do without.
Then, I was forced to make some changes at the bushiness. I started cutting back on the meals, even though it was only a one or two time a week happening, it was an unnecessary expense. Well, a few of my employees complained. I explained why and left it at that. About a month later a "representative" came to me and advised me that if I would no longer provide meals no one would work late.
So, with no choice, I started letting people go.
The response was more complaints.
Finally, I told everyone, that I would be no longer requiring their services at their current pay and benefits. If they wanted to stay a modest cut of 5% salary would be needed and they would each have to pay $15.00/week towards their health insurance.
All of them complained. I thought to myself, you have to be kidding. These people make far and above what most people in Scranton earn. They offered to negotiate. That was it, I had enough. I started this business so I could have a secure future. I worked 18 months before I took my first day off and another year before my first weekend and 6 months after that before my first vacation. It was then and there that I realized I would no longer work so others could profit from my energy, labor, money and drive.
I closed for two weeks to restructure. I replaced all full time employees with part time ones. Currently no employee works more than 15 hours/week. I offered and continue to offer only minimum wage.
I now employ 25% more people and my business earns 50% more based on the cuts alone. The actual increase last year, in this bad economy, was 58%.
Now, if someone quits, big deal. If someone is sick, big deal. There is someone willing to come in and there is always someone willing to work.
I learned some valuable lessons. Employees good and bad are replaceable.
Workers are the biggest cost of doing business.
When given above and beyond what is expected, instead of appreciating the extras, they treat them as entitlements.
And finally, my business, is about me.
I built it.
It succeeds because of me and my efforts. And I will not lose it in an effort to take care of someone else. I no longer sacrifice, I invest.
Call me greedy, call me selfish, call me what you wish. I received an important education. Funny, when employees wanted a part of my success it was called their fair share, when I now choose to keep what I earn I am called greedy. Whatever, I spend 4 days a week at my winter home here in South Carolina. Enjoy the struggle and the cold.

At 2:34 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

WOW! Tammy Faye Bakker is back or at least the look. The people we elect.

At 5:17 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

7:06 - You have some very valid statements in your last writing. Although I agree with most of what you say, I still think you're wrong about your employees, SOME of them anyway. I personally think good employees make a business flourish. If you want to nickle and dime, that's your business. Maybe is does work for you. Seems the whole labor market is going with your way of thinking. I'm glad I don't have to work for you. I certainly could not survive and raise a family and keep a decent place to live. And not everyone can just up and start a business for themselves, contrary to what you may think. I respect your attitude towards employees and entitlement, seems many of them do. (Bad apple spoils the bunch theory, I guess). Still this country is going down the toilet with your and many others way of doing business. We've become a country with not much else but the service industry. Not your fault, just the way things are unraveling.

At 11:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

7:06 and 5:17
You both make good points. I once owned a business and bent over backwards to be fair to employees.
Almost 100% of them took advantage of every effort I made and still wanted more. Complaints were constant. I had 16 employees at one time and was down to 3 plus myself when I gave up,took a bad hit and walked away. As to your cozy situation in South Carolina, watch out somebody is probably robbing you blind and with your new attitude you deserve it. And so it goes...

At 8:48 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks 5:17 and 11:36.
Not too worried about being robbed, I have a mfg business, very little cash on hand. All equipment is computer inventoried.
I think you would have liked working for me in the past. My lowest unskilled employee was making 20/hour plus benefits, plus over time.
Now, I am entertaining an offer to sell and retire full time.
I had an offer once before, but I couldn't get an agreement to keep the Scranton facility open. And because in those days I didn't want my employees to lose their job I turned it down, what was an eight figure offer. But I put the employees needs ahead of my own.
This time I have no conditions, if the buyer can come up with the funding. I'm done.
A handful of managers not only took the concessions, to show their commitment they each took a small share in the business and will likely profit nicely from the sale. I did offer the non-management types an opportunity to replace a small% of their pay with profit sharing, but they didn't want to take the chance. Because the management was invested directly on the companies performance they made up the extra time when we were changing over.
Again, important lesson learned that no one will profit from my labor, energy, drive and risk taking again. That is if I decide to start another business. Retirement at 42 years old sounds nice.
My wife and I started the business with no money and no employees. We were downsized and had only a few hundred in the bank, nor real assets. We started by getting some 1/2 down orders, I personally called supplier and they worked with me as far as materials. And we worked hard. We moved to a one room apartment and pretty much ate nothing more than macaroni, rice, beans and drank tap water; no cable t.v., no internet and we sold our car, walking to work, no matter what the weather. When I said I didn't take a day off, I mean a day, we went non-stopped 7 days a week. And others, who came on later, wanted their "fair" share. It is funny how all these people never see what goes on in building a business, but once it is successful they want their piece. I don't think any of them would have worked an hour without pay, no less what I put into it.

At 6:57 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

8:48 = One last comment and I'll let this one rest, because it can go on forever with both sides of the topic. A great many of us employees at the former Sunday Independent went without pay also, to keep them afloat, and we got it up the ass in the end of it all. We didn't get our "fair piece" as you call it, we just knew the company was having difficulties, "brilliant, business tactics" you say, I say DEPLORABLE, and I for one cannot forget those greedy bastards for the screwing they gave a lot of innocents. You sound like that old coal mine attitude, screw everyone else but let them kill themselves making me rich. Good for you, enjoy your Carolinas, don't concern yourself with the backbone of your business that keeps you afloat, you can't do it alone, that's why you hired employees in the first place. You certainly have the right to dump your business and retire at 42, but don't blame your employees or their representatives for any problems you may have encountered over the course of time. Again, I'm sure glad I don't have to work for you.

At 7:07 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

6:57 if you actually read what I wrote, I took good care of my employees and they took the extras as entitlements. I built my business without anyone for over 1 year and then hired from there.
And funny, getting rid of those people who were the "backbone" of my company increased my profits, so much so that I expanded and can now retire. If I kept carrying those ungrateful employees, I would be like the other poster and have gone out of business.
You can think any thing of me you like. I was a wage slave once before. I lost my job, my wife lost her's. We could have held on to bitterness, as you obviously have done, or we could let it go and create our own life; which is what we have done.
I never "blamed" the employees, again, I know reading and comprehending in northeast PA are not the forte of most, but when business turned down, I did with out to keep them at their pay level. $20/hour I think is pretty good for people who barely knew how to sweep a floor.
Stay bitter; stay downtrodden; keep listening to the Corbetts of the world who will justify your anger and bitterness. Or, take that energy and take control of your life and produce for yourself and not some asshole like me.

At 7:57 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

7:07 either you are just having too much fun with these people or you are naive to the NEPA mentality. You can't use logic with the Heynas. Don't you get it, they don't feel entitled, in their minds, they are entitled to your profits. NEPA Heynas feel that the world owes them a living.
Congratulations on your success. It isn't often one goes from hourly worker to successful business owner.


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